Okay, this is a bit strange and weird I realize, even for me, but after what started out as a humerous texting conversation turned into quite the ordeal between me and Kelli for nearly 2 hours.  Now I can't even remember how this conversation got started.......Oh, yes I do now that I think of it but I best not disclose that information at this time.  Anyway what this in depth conversation lead into was, WHY is there a hole in the front of men's briefs??? You think we are actually going to take the time to use it? You think we, as males, is actually going to take the time to poke our goober through that hole and then have to poke it back through when we're done? And......being realistic and honest here, who really wants to bend and twist his pride and joy around to get it out of this hole when it is faster and easier to just pull it over the top of the elastic band of the under roos? Also, we all know or most of us do, that a man's winky has the tendency to "expand" and "grow" when he has to urinate badly. So that means that we have to attempt to stretch out our undies over the master's head to get him through this hole...who has time to do that and who wants to? I mean when you have to go you have to go and sometimes you just don't have time to talk to your partner and ask him to make this process as simple as possible, "okay pal I really need to go here so you are just going to have to participate and stick your head and neck out for me this time"....YEAH RIGHT!!! WE GONNA WHIP THAT PUPPY OUT OVER THE EDGE........literally. Then as I get to thinking more and more about this hole...it really starts to bother me in the sense that it is USELESS. Plus, think how long it takes to build a pair of underwear? Think how much time could be saved if they deleted that HOLE and just placed extra material in that area for support. I mean logic tells me if they can save time building undies then they should be able to cut the cost as well.  Everyone would love to wear cost effective undies....I know they would. Then the big question arose during this conversation........WHY WAS I worried about it when I don't wear them anyway!  Don't matter if I wear them or not........bottom line is, I got to thinking about it and it makes no sense as to why it is there. NONE what so ever. I mean think about it and do the math yourself and ask yourself if your a man....Do I or Do I not use the hole and for you women out there ask your husband, boyfriend or goobered friend if he uses the hole. I bet 98% tells you NO. See this even went further than this when I surveyed my crew and the 2nd crew as well here where I work....out of 16 men not a ONE used the hole and only ONE doesn't have a hole to use(that would be me). I live with a.........nevermind. Anyhoo, then I ask Kelli to get into a men's chat room and ask them this very question as well. SHE DID....curosity got the best of her too or she wouldn't of done it.  Out of 6 men in that room only one used the hole. She figured he was young....I figured he was the only one with a small enough goober to actually take the time to use the hole because it wasn't much of a fight getting it through but I don't know. Who am I to judge....I'm Cheyne, that's who and that leaves me entitled to judge I suppose.  Anyway...me and Kelli will be doing some more surveying on this subject and when we feel we have enough stats and info to argue our case with Fruit of a Loom and other leading holey panty companies we will.  I figure by this time in 3 months or so we will be the new producers of holeless undies and rich and famous. We will be on billboards and plastered on the side of the buses that run up and down main street of New York. You watch.